Posts by paul from cleveland

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Is there evidence for networks of abuse?

by slimboyfat in

i tend to avoid the subject because it's too depressing, so i've probably missed lots of discussion about this issue.

but i read a comment on youtube yesterday that shocked me and made me wonder.

the person claimed that many years ago abusers in society generally identified jws as a safe haven for abusers and joined en masse order to exploit the situation.

Is there evidence for networks of abuse?

by slimboyfat in

i tend to avoid the subject because it's too depressing, so i've probably missed lots of discussion about this issue.

but i read a comment on youtube yesterday that shocked me and made me wonder.

the person claimed that many years ago abusers in society generally identified jws as a safe haven for abusers and joined en masse order to exploit the situation.

I couldn't imagine this network existing. It seems so improbable for a lot of reasons. Mainly because being a witness is no small commitment. All that work just to have access to children? What a miserable life if true.

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Even the Overlapping Generations isn't an original concept

by paradisebeauty in

to my surprise, i found this: .

the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.

if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....

paul from cleveland

In my mind this gives the concept more credibility not less. If this way of viewing a generation is accepted outside of Watchtower then it's not so far-fetched. How often have we heard how ridiculous the overlapping generation concept is because it doesn't match the dictionary definition of "generation". Well, now, "overlapping generation" has it's own Wikipedia entry so it's validated in some way.

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Massive Plunge in Number of New JW Congregations from 1990 to 2014

by steve2 in

in a separate thread on the very latest figures for the current world wide annual report of jws, discussion turned to how "we'll know decline has really set in.

one of the posters said: .

the figure that interests me most is the number of congregations.

paul from cleveland

Steve, it's okay, I knew what you meant. I just thought the initial wording might lead to a lot of unnecessary off topic remarks.

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Massive Plunge in Number of New JW Congregations from 1990 to 2014

by steve2 in

in a separate thread on the very latest figures for the current world wide annual report of jws, discussion turned to how "we'll know decline has really set in.

one of the posters said: .

the figure that interests me most is the number of congregations.

paul from cleveland

Perhaps this was mentioned as I didn't read all the comments, however, I think this is referred to as a 'decrease in the rate of growth' rather than a 'plunge in the number' of congregations as the total number actually grew over that period.

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To me this seams like more than a coincidence ...

by Greybeard in

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sorry if this has been discussed before.... for a few days now, this question has been going through my mind.

what was the date the governing body took the sole role of the faithful and discreet slave and how close was it to the end of the mayan calendar in december of 2012?

i looked it up on jwfactes.com and sure enough, checkout the date on this article:.

paul from cleveland

Greybeard, I don't understand. The Governing body claimed they were appointed in 1919 and the Mayan calander ended in 2012? Are you saying it's a coincidence that they wrote an article about it in 2012? (btw, this is a sincere question. I realize that it could be interpreted as sarcasm depending upon the tone of voice in which it's read, however, it isn't)

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Don't know what to do

by looter in

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i'm in a crazy situation.

about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.

it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.

paul from cleveland

Maybe this was mentioned as I didn't read all the comments.

I don't have all the details regarding this, however, I have a friend who's parents kicked him out at 17 because they discovered he was gay (yes a Witness). He was able to qualify for benefits to attend college by claiming something like 'parental abandonment' which I seem to recall had benefits beyond the age of 18. Perhaps into his 20's? Do some research into this if you're in the US (or wherever you are). I seem to recall there were some benefits up to the age of 25.

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